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21/09/2009 06:47:00
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Ray Johnson
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Red Viper wrote:You only call me shit if you have just as much as or more titles than me, otherwise your opinion doesn't mean shit.
Look at my title stats before you say anymore stupid bullshit
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=RedRocks87
I'll make my return at some point but not right now because I don't have the time because of the workload I got for school.
Dude.. Those stats are shit.
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21/09/2009 15:14:09
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Dark Destroyer
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Why do people get excited over racking up streaks and titles against the same 3 people? I just don't get it. It would be impressive if atleast 3 vets were still playing.
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19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
DEFENCES: 373
"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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21/09/2009 18:51:18
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Red Viper
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Ray Johnson wrote:
Red Viper wrote:You only call me shit if you have just as much as or more titles than me, otherwise your opinion doesn't mean shit.
Look at my title stats before you say anymore stupid bullshit
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=RedRocks87
I'll make my return at some point but not right now because I don't have the time because of the workload I got for school.
Dude.. Those stats are shit.
If you seriously think that my stats are shit than you must be either blind or very stupid. Look at my winning differential and lets see my stats are shit or not. Its funny that a fighter with one belt calling my stats shit. Most time we have fought, you were buried by me.
I just looked at your stats and they are not that impressive. Out of those fights, you only beaten me more once. All the other times you got buried badly.
Heres your stats
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=Ray2
If you seriously think you have better a record than me, than your seriously brain damaged. If your going to call someone's stats shit go look into hit man's record and you'll see what I am talking about. This may be your opinion, but so far you have a shitty argument.
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The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
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21/09/2009 20:36:07
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johnbludger
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Dark Destroyer wrote:Why do people get excited over racking up streaks and titles against the same 3 people? I just don't get it. It would be impressive if atleast 3 vets were still playing.
I have defended against many people: Fatny,Larry,Kreo,Popeye,Boon,Edder,DDC,Profsback,Kayonda,YOU SUCK,Dinamita,Drunk Punch,Chrille,Jens,Spammin Punches,New Moon and to fast.
I have mostly against popeye,boon,new moon. I dont get excited about the streaks. I do get excited about actually holding the title longer then a week.
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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21/09/2009 21:01:52
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EDDIE54
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lmfao john nice your marking everyone down
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21/09/2009 21:14:18
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johnbludger
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EDDIE54 wrote:lmfao john nice your marking everyone down
Lol that's exactly what I did. Just proving that I defend against the ones that has challenged me. Hey Edd I got the pic on my sig now. You know the one that you made for me.
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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22/09/2009 06:13:34
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Ray Johnson
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Red Viper wrote:If you seriously think that my stats are shit than you must be either blind or very stupid. Look at my winning differential and lets see my stats are shit or not. Its funny that a fighter with one belt calling my stats shit. Most time we have fought, you were buried by me.
I just looked at your stats and they are not that impressive. Out of those fights, you only beaten me more once. All the other times you got buried badly.
Heres your stats
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=Ray2
If you seriously think you have better a record than me, than your seriously brain damaged. If your going to call someone's stats shit go look into hit man's record and you'll see what I am talking about. This may be your opinion, but so far you have a shitty argument.
My stats are seriously better than yours. You have no argument.
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22/09/2009 16:34:39
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Red Viper
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Ray Johnson wrote:
Red Viper wrote:If you seriously think that my stats are shit than you must be either blind or very stupid. Look at my winning differential and lets see my stats are shit or not. Its funny that a fighter with one belt calling my stats shit. Most time we have fought, you were buried by me.
I just looked at your stats and they are not that impressive. Out of those fights, you only beaten me more once. All the other times you got buried badly.
Heres your stats
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=Ray2
If you seriously think you have better a record than me, than your seriously brain damaged. If your going to call someone's stats shit go look into hit man's record and you'll see what I am talking about. This may be your opinion, but so far you have a shitty argument.
My stats are seriously better than yours. You have no argument.
You must be kidding, right. Your a lot dumber than I thought. Only a real moron will say stats with one title is better than stats with over 100 belts. Enlighten me on how your stats are better than mine. Saying your stats is better than mine is like saying Ryan Leaf is better than Drew Brees. Both of these situations are wrong because neither is true. If I had stats like yours, I will still bury you badly because I am a more skilled than you are and that is a fact. If you keep saying stupid shit like that, I am going to make a poll and lets see who has better stats because I want other people's opinions besides yours. So far, I see nothing but one crappy sentence with zero reasons, you won't win an argument with one crappy sentence. Next time back up your stupid ass statements that you think I am a shitty fighter, otherwise gtfo..
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Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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22/09/2009 19:10:35
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Ray Johnson
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Red Viper wrote:You must be kidding, right. Your a lot dumber than I thought. Only a real moron will say stats with one title is better than stats with over 100 belts. Enlighten me on how your stats are better than mine. Saying your stats is better than mine is like saying Ryan Leaf is better than Drew Brees. Both of these situations are wrong because neither is true. If I had stats like yours, I will still bury you badly because I am a more skilled than you are and that is a fact. If you keep saying stupid shit like that, I am going to make a poll and lets see who has better stats because I want other people's opinions besides yours. So far, I see nothing but one crappy sentence with zero reasons, you won't win an argument with one crappy sentence. Next time back up your stupid ass statements that you think I am a shitty fighter, otherwise gtfo.
I don't have to back my statements up, because you're obviously shit at this game.
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22/09/2009 19:18:06
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johnbludger
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Red Viper wrote:
Ray Johnson wrote:
Red Viper wrote:If you seriously think that my stats are shit than you must be either blind or very stupid. Look at my winning differential and lets see my stats are shit or not. Its funny that a fighter with one belt calling my stats shit. Most time we have fought, you were buried by me.
I just looked at your stats and they are not that impressive. Out of those fights, you only beaten me more once. All the other times you got buried badly.
Heres your stats
http://www.onlineboxing.net/ob2d/main/info/view_boxer.jsp?user=Ray2
If you seriously think you have better a record than me, than your seriously brain damaged. If your going to call someone's stats shit go look into hit man's record and you'll see what I am talking about. This may be your opinion, but so far you have a shitty argument.
My stats are seriously better than yours. You have no argument.
You must be kidding, right. Your a lot dumber than I thought. Only a real moron will say stats with one title is better than stats with over 100 belts. Enlighten me on how your stats are better than mine. Saying your stats is better than mine is like saying Ryan Leaf is better than Drew Brees. Both of these situations are wrong because neither is true. If I had stats like yours, I will still bury you badly because I am a more skilled than you are and that is a fact. If you keep saying stupid shit like that, I am going to make a poll and lets see who has better stats because I want other people's opinions besides yours. So far, I see nothing but one crappy sentence with zero reasons, you won't win an argument with one crappy sentence. Next time back up your stupid ass statements that you think I am a shitty fighter, otherwise gtfo..
Well lets think about this statistically....
Red Viper has 125 title attempts
Ray has 3 title attempts
Red Viper won 119 titles
Ray has won 1 title
Red Viper has 262 title defences
Ray has none
Red viper has been in 633 title fights
Ray has been in 3 title fights
Viper has the better record
Ray has not played much
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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22/09/2009 21:07:51
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Red Viper
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Ray Johnson wrote:
Red Viper wrote:You must be kidding, right. Your a lot dumber than I thought. Only a real moron will say stats with one title is better than stats with over 100 belts. Enlighten me on how your stats are better than mine. Saying your stats is better than mine is like saying Ryan Leaf is better than Drew Brees. Both of these situations are wrong because neither is true. If I had stats like yours, I will still bury you badly because I am a more skilled than you are and that is a fact. If you keep saying stupid shit like that, I am going to make a poll and lets see who has better stats because I want other people's opinions besides yours. So far, I see nothing but one crappy sentence with zero reasons, you won't win an argument with one crappy sentence. Next time back up your stupid ass statements that you think I am a shitty fighter, otherwise gtfo.
I don't have to back my statements up, because you're obviously shit at this game.
Um yeah you do. One sentence won't back up squat.
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Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle- Confucius
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23/09/2009 12:18:55
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Red Viper wrote:Um yeah you do. One sentence won't back up squat.
Nice one, hypocrite. Next time, bow down and I will forgive you for making stupid comments. I think that's fair, don't you?
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24/09/2009 21:47:52
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HTF
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Wow....
anyway Viper no offense man ur a cool dude but your not GREAT your a good player but your inconsistent and 1 dimensional not very rounded at all.
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24/09/2009 22:40:46
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johnbludger
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I have to agree and disagree with HTF. Viper you are kinda inconsistent and you are 1-dimensional but your are 1 of the best sluggers in OB History and you have a great title record. You have a strong offence but if you could add a good defense you would be "GREAT" in HTF terms. The Duck down defense is preventing you.
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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25/09/2009 01:31:42
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Red Viper
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johnbludger wrote:I have to agree and disagree with HTF. Viper you are kinda inconsistent and you are 1-dimensional but your are 1 of the best sluggers in OB History and you have a great title record. You have a strong offence but if you could add a good defense you would be "GREAT" in HTF terms. The Duck down defense is preventing you.
"Great" in HTF's terms means to be the most dominant fighter and destroy every fighter there is. Yeah I may be inconsistent but I get the Job done in the ring, thats all it matters. I am trying to get my defence to get better but I just do not have quick reflexes on defending both the body and the head. There is no way for me to win rounds because I cannot box in a elite style, but my offence and accuracy can take care of that. In some fights, I don't need defense to win fights but against elite oppenents, I need to use some defence to win. The duck down defence may prevent me in some areas but it works most of the time for me becuase I dodge more shots because of it.
Both you and HTF have some good points.
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The KO Legend of Online Boxing
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OB Name- Red Viper
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Active as of right now
Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle- Confucius
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