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Skillz
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To clear up all the "confusion" here is the list that most of the elites have agreed upon.
If you disagree with anyone placed on this list, or think anyone should be up here please post your reasons. But remember WE ARE NOT TRYING TO START A FLAME WAR HERE. I REPEAT NO FLAME WARS ! please.
Here's the list in no particular order.
Salvador Sanchez/Hatton (or so we think)
Rocky Marciano/a million alts (or Pain)
Red Viper
John (improved so much in so little time)
Rush/Skillz
Joe Calzaghe
Vargas/Terminator
Goldenboy
Dirk/Boon
Nigel Benn/"The Dark Destroyer"
Reaper
On the Rise to "Elite Status"....
Captain America (so close to elite)
Hurricane Ike (falling off the "rise" list)
TRPCHE
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14/01/2009 00:18:50
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johnbludger
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cool im an elite now
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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14/01/2009 00:21:37
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Red Viper
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Skillz wrote:To clear up all the "confusion" here is the list that most of the elites have agreed upon.
If you disagree with anyone placed on this list, or think anyone should be up here please post your reasons. But remember WE ARE NOT TRYING TO START A FLAME WAR HERE. I REPEAT NO FLAME WARS ! please.
Here's the list in no particular order.
Salvador Sanchez/ Hatton (or so we think)
Rocky Marciano/ a million alts (or Pain)
Red Viper
John (improved so much in so little time)
Rush/ Skillz
Joe Calzaghe
Vargas/ Terminator
Goldenboy
Dirk/Boon
On the Rise to "Elite Status"....
Captain America (so close to elite)
Hurricane Ike (falling off the "rise" list)
TRPCHE
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60 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences in all
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
8- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
The most hardworking fighter in OB
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper[/b]
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Active as of right now
Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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14/01/2009 07:03:50
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Paul Dion
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I hope you are joking about some of those names on the "elite" list...seriously... and what is "flaming"??? Is it arguing or shit talking? lol
Anyway...I disagree with a few names on this list...no way they should be mentioned in the same league as fighters like Sal!!!
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- Join Date: 2006
- Status: Active
- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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14/01/2009 08:59:11
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Kessler
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Paul Dion wrote:I hope you are joking about some of those names on the "elite" list...seriously...
no way they should be mentioned in the same league as fighters like Sal!!!
Yup, putting some of those names in the same sentence as Sal is a joke.
This is more like "OB Regular List - the people who play every day"
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Mikkel Kessler: W637 L597 (Retired)
Earnie Shavers: W446 L432 (Retired)
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14/01/2009 12:19:04
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Barrack Obama
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I think a lot of those guys have very good skills. I see a lot of potential in many of them. My edge is basically experience, which they too will accumulate over time.
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14/01/2009 14:50:45
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Skillz
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Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
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42xOB Champ
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7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
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4xTourney
P4P
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14/01/2009 15:26:59
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johnbludger
Joined: 24/08/2008 22:48:05
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hey sal whats ur average ping
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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14/01/2009 15:28:33
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Professor
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Skillz wrote:To clear up all the "confusion" here is the list that most of the elites have agreed upon.
If you disagree with anyone placed on this list, or think anyone should be up here please post your reasons. But remember WE ARE NOT TRYING TO START A FLAME WAR HERE. I REPEAT NO FLAME WARS ! please.
Here's the list in no particular order.
Salvador Sanchez/ Hatton (or so we think)
Rocky Marciano/ a million alts (or Pain)
Red Viper (no)
John (improved so much in so little time) (hell no)
Rush/ Skillz (lolno)
Joe Calzaghe (no)
Vargas/ Terminator
Goldenboy (wut?)
Dirk/Boon
On the Rise to "Elite Status"....
Captain America (so close to elite)
Hurricane Ike (falling off the "rise" list)
TRPCHE
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OBID: ProfsBack
Status: Active
Multiple OB champ
I took Fatny's streak. 7/1/2008
Offensive Style: Power Puncher/ KO Artist
Defensive Style: Lean Spam
OB Master of Styles
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14/01/2009 15:34:29
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Barrack Obama
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Skillz wrote:Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
I agree, and here's yet another way to put it.
Even though I'm a HOFer and a proven great fighter, that doesn't mean you guys can't compete with me. There's a big difference between a HOFer and non-HOFer current elite fighter. A HOFer has proven himself through consistency, dominance, skill, titles, etc. On the other hand, you have a non-HOFer current elite fighter (most of the guys on the list/potential future HOFers) that would probably wipe the floor with most inactive HOFers. However, that doesn't mean they can compare themselves to that individual.
To explain if further, Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson didn't make him a great fighter. We all saw what happened after he scored the victory of a lifetime. He wasn't consistent and later got owned several times himself.
And yes, that list is OB's current elite. Although I'd also include Nigel Benn somewhere in there. It looks like he's been more active these days, and once he gets it going, I believe he's going to be a handful for everyone.
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14/01/2009 15:38:26
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johnbludger
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yeah nigel has been on more often, he is handful when he gets in a good groove
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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14/01/2009 15:38:38
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Professor
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Barrack Obama wrote:
Skillz wrote:Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
I agree.
Even though I'm a HOFer and a proven great fighter, that doesn't mean you guys can't compete with me. There's a big difference between a HOFer and non-HOFer current elite fighter. A HOFer has proven himself through consistency, dominance, skill, titles, etc. On the other hand, you have a non-HOFer current elite fighter (most of the guys on the list/potential future HOFers) that would probably wipe the floor with most inactive HOFers. However, that doesn't mean they can compare themselves to that individual.
To explain if further, Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson didn't make him a great fighter. We all saw what happened after he scored the victory of a lifetime. He wasn't consistent and later got owned several times himself.
And yes, that list is OB's current elite. Although I'd also include Nigel Benn somewhere in there. It looks like he's been more active these days, and once he gets it going, I believe he's going to be a handful for everyone.
Thing is, their aren't elites. Vargas, Ricky and Rocky are the only elites playing the game right now.
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OBID: ProfsBack
Status: Active
Multiple OB champ
I took Fatny's streak. 7/1/2008
Offensive Style: Power Puncher/ KO Artist
Defensive Style: Lean Spam
OB Master of Styles
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14/01/2009 15:43:11
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Barrack Obama
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Professor wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Skillz wrote:Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
I agree.
Even though I'm a HOFer and a proven great fighter, that doesn't mean you guys can't compete with me. There's a big difference between a HOFer and non-HOFer current elite fighter. A HOFer has proven himself through consistency, dominance, skill, titles, etc. On the other hand, you have a non-HOFer current elite fighter (most of the guys on the list/potential future HOFers) that would probably wipe the floor with most inactive HOFers. However, that doesn't mean they can compare themselves to that individual.
To explain if further, Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson didn't make him a great fighter. We all saw what happened after he scored the victory of a lifetime. He wasn't consistent and later got owned several times himself.
And yes, that list is OB's current elite. Although I'd also include Nigel Benn somewhere in there. It looks like he's been more active these days, and once he gets it going, I believe he's going to be a handful for everyone.
Thing is, their aren't elites. Vargas, Ricky and Rocky are the only elites playing the game right now.
I have to disagree. Let's take a look at the definition of "elite."
Def of Elite: The best or most skilled members of a group.
Therefore, if we have about 20-25 active members in this game, I'd opine that the elites are the top 5. If we have 50 active members, then we could stretch it to the top 10. Just my two cents.
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14/01/2009 15:43:36
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Barrack Obama
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Professor wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Skillz wrote:Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
I agree.
Even though I'm a HOFer and a proven great fighter, that doesn't mean you guys can't compete with me. There's a big difference between a HOFer and non-HOFer current elite fighter. A HOFer has proven himself through consistency, dominance, skill, titles, etc. On the other hand, you have a non-HOFer current elite fighter (most of the guys on the list/potential future HOFers) that would probably wipe the floor with most inactive HOFers. However, that doesn't mean they can compare themselves to that individual.
To explain if further, Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson didn't make him a great fighter. We all saw what happened after he scored the victory of a lifetime. He wasn't consistent and later got owned several times himself.
And yes, that list is OB's current elite. Although I'd also include Nigel Benn somewhere in there. It looks like he's been more active these days, and once he gets it going, I believe he's going to be a handful for everyone.
Thing is, their aren't elites. Vargas, Ricky and Rocky are the only elites playing the game right now.
BTW, who is Vargas playing under now?
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14/01/2009 15:45:35
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johnbludger
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Professor wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Skillz wrote:Sal is a different "Elite" i mean he's a HOFer and has the most experience aside from Viper.
As for putting "us" in the same league as him that's like saying that The #1 contenders in boxing aren't the best because they aren't champ.
All those people that are on the list are the BEST of OB right NOW.
And that doesn't have anything to do with them playing everyday because majority of the list doesn't. They just beat fighters like yall on a regular basis.
And they give other TOP fighters good fights.
Simple.
And flaming is posting random dumb shit to start arguments and etc...
I agree.
Even though I'm a HOFer and a proven great fighter, that doesn't mean you guys can't compete with me. There's a big difference between a HOFer and non-HOFer current elite fighter. A HOFer has proven himself through consistency, dominance, skill, titles, etc. On the other hand, you have a non-HOFer current elite fighter (most of the guys on the list/potential future HOFers) that would probably wipe the floor with most inactive HOFers. However, that doesn't mean they can compare themselves to that individual.
To explain if further, Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson didn't make him a great fighter. We all saw what happened after he scored the victory of a lifetime. He wasn't consistent and later got owned several times himself.
And yes, that list is OB's current elite. Although I'd also include Nigel Benn somewhere in there. It looks like he's been more active these days, and once he gets it going, I believe he's going to be a handful for everyone.
Thing is, their aren't elites. Vargas, Ricky and Rocky are the only elites playing the game right now.
I disagree, everyone on the list is very good, im not sure why im on the list but I won over 15 titles and 20+ defenses from december to now. My recent title was tournament title which i had for a week and lost it to Rocky but ill win it back some othertime. If you get on more you will see why Skillz made this post and this goes for every person that has been inactive.
NO FLAME
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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