Floy Mayweathers Record !

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Professor wrote:Mayweather is legit don't be disrespectful.

Also, saying RJJ is a ducker is nothing beyond. He held and defended every major belt at 175. RJJ didn't duck, but if he ever tried, all the guy would have to do is become a mandatory for 1 out of about 4 different sanctioning bodies.
Crazy thread..

RJJ was a ducker. I followed his entire career.

He didn't fight about 4-5 top fighters from 160-168. After the Toney fight, he basically went on a hiatus where he literally fought garbage men, full-time cops, and other part-time boxers, for close to ten years before moving up to heavyweight to face John Ruiz.

There's no doubt he had great speed and reflexes, but how do you think you would look if you were boxing your 5 year old cousin? It's all about quality of opposition and RJJ lacks that element on his ledger.

Now I'm not saying he wasn't great. He sure was, just not as great as many of the younger fans believe.

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Mikkel wrote:Had he fought Cotto and Margarito there whouldnt be a problem. But like RJJ, he only took the fights he was 99% sure to win.
It's just a damn shame..

Preach it.

He ducked every threat at WW as if they were the plague.

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Mikkel wrote:Mosley is a lot more accomplished fighter. He is willing to fight ANYONE. Never been knocked off his feet..a fighter that can beat the odds.
And just as important, his fights are action packed, he is willing to trade punches.
I can't remember seeing Floyd in a good fight. Havent seen all his fights but his latest so called "big fights" were total bores.

Agreed. Shane Mosley is also a much greater fighter in an all-time sense. Shane has been an excellent fighter at 135 & 147. 154 was just a little too much for him. He was too undersized but we must still give him credit for fighting the best.

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Professor wrote:

Mikkel wrote:Had he fought Cotto and Margarito there whouldnt be a problem. But like RJJ, he only took the fights he was 99% sure to win.
It's just a damn shame..

Are you dense? RJJ held 6 titles at 175 continuously, including all 4 major titles. You can't win every fucking belt by hand picking your opponents if anything his division was just shitty, and he still beat Virgil Hill, P4P James Toney, Hopkins and the (at the time) undefeated Montell Griffin. This is what happens when people go on boxrec and look at records instead of actually following boxing. Way to look ignorant. Margarito is a bitch ass cheater no one needed to fight him. And Cotto was all hype.

Do you know what "dilution of titles" means? And no, RJJ wasn't undisputed when he was at 175. He never fought the linear champion, Dariusz Michalczewski.

I have been following boxing for longer than you have been alive. I'm knowledgable enough to realize the man never fully tested himself consistently. He's become much more likeable since he got KTFO by Tarver. Sadly, he's never been able to pull off one last late run in his career, something grade A greats have been able to accomplish.

Arctic Blaze wrote:yall musta forgot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWIqZKhNY90

you got the nerve saying he didnt fight nobody, he just makes them all look like nobodys.

LOL he did fight nobodys. He got criticism his whole career for fighting nobodies. He even fought a part time boxer who was also a police man. Yes, he beat over rated Toney and a young Hopkins. He didnt do much else.

James Toney OVERRATED?? YOu sound fucking stupid.
Nuff Said.

Oh well ABOUT 90% OF TOP FIGHTERS TODAY DON'T FIGHT ALL THATS OUT THERE YOU'D BE IN THE GAME FOREVER WITH UP AND COMING FIGHTERS, OLD FIGHTERS STILL HANGIN, FIGHTERS LIKE YOURSELF.
HE WAS P4P BEST AND HE DIDNT RETIRE TO NOT HAVE TO FIGHT THEM IF YOU WATCH THE MAYWEATHER-HATTON/DLH 24/7'S.
AND WHO DID HE NOT FIGHT?? 2 PEOPLE-MOSLEY, MARGARITO.
and he looks damn smart for tht decision now.
You do what you have to do.

Why didn't he fight Paul Williams? Why didn't he fight Clottey? Why didn't he fight Marg? Why didn't he fight Cotto? Why didn't he fight Mosley?

It's not high risk n no money or nothin like that. All of these fighters are well known.

Thats a long list of people to duck. He can't call himself the best without beating the best in the division. His biggest fights were Hatton n old DLH. Hatton never did stand a chance against him n DLH was already past it.

Stop bein a bad bad nuthugger and realise he aint what you make him out to be.

Kessler wrote:Why didn't he fight Paul Williams? Why didn't he fight Clottey? Why didn't he fight Marg? Why didn't he fight Cotto? Why didn't he fight Mosley?

It's not high risk n no money or nothin like that. All of these fighters are well known.

Thats a long list of people to duck. He can't call himself the best without beating the best in the division. His biggest fights were Hatton n old DLH. Hatton never did stand a chance against him n DLH was already past it.

Stop bein a bad bad nuthugger and realise he aint what you make him out to be.

Ok now you just named like 5 people. ill break it down.
Clottey-He's a nobody. No money there.
Margarito-No money was there at the time.
Paul Williams-Was an up and comer at the time.
Around the time Cotto was becoming a BIIGGG name he was training for DLH, than Hatton.
Mosley-That's an old case they were supposed ta fight in 03-04 but it just nnt happen and he said he might even come back for tht.
or the winner of Pacquaio-Hatton.

At the time, all of those fighters were well known and bring in alot of money.

How can you say Clottey is a nobody?!?!?!?! wtf? thats just wierd. Do u even watch boxing?

Clottey is a big threat for little money, hes not a PPV main event by a LONG SHOT. For Somebody like Mayweather.

I forgot to mention Cintron, Collazo n Quintana.

Instead he fought Sharmba Mitchell, Carlos Manuel Baldomir, Henry Bruseles, DeMarcus Corley. You think these people are where more well known than the 5 I mentioned? Even at the time of those fights. I don't think so....

Ah well does it really matter?

You can go back in history and name atleast 30 HOFer's irl who nnt fight everybody they could've, its just the way of boxing.
There aren't to many "true" champs anymore that have fought everyone possible.

Any fighter that has fought the best around doesn't have a '0' on their record. The people with records like Joe's and Floyds are overprotected. Anybody with a 0 after 40 fights have obviously carefully picked their fights.

Arctic Blaze wrote:yall musta forgot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWIqZKhNY90

you got the nerve saying he didnt fight nobody, he just makes them all look like nobodys.

Yea..cause they WERE nobodys.

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Skillz wrote:Ah well does it really matter?

You can go back in history and name atleast 30 HOFer's irl who nnt fight everybody they could've, its just the way of boxing.
There aren't to many "true" champs anymore that have fought everyone possible.

Mosley is a true champ..there's not many of them, who ever said there was ? we are just saying that MW isn't among that particular group of ppl.

Example of true champs :
Marvin Hagler
Carlos Monzon
Joe Louis

Now if you still don't get the picture there aint much left to say.