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Lol How did you make this ?
I hope you didnt put a virus or something ray.
Well said RN....people forget that in the original version of OB (which had much more players than this version) there was no stamina at all.
I think it's just a matter of adjusting and let time do its work.
Yea u cant use webstart anymore. Click on the new link.
Try again, it's fixed.
Try this one http://www.onlineboxing.net/applet/
Oh shit..ok wait

Paul Dion wrote:Thanks for the explanation Mikkel. Is it difficult to implament "ability settings" on the "create a boxer" mode? Maybe when a fighter is created, the player could be assigned a certain amount of points and they can be spent on skills such as power, speed, endurance, stamina...etc.

I'm not a game developer so I don't know the dificulty of the task!

Fighters with different skill sets would make the game more interesting...each individual fighter having different stamina levels and power levels, etc.

That wouldnt be too hard, however it would take time and energy, things I really only have for 3D atm.
http://onlineboxing.net/webstart/OB2D/OB2D.jnlp You need java installed of course.
If you fight your usual style you wont run out.
To answer you questions: with stamina 99.9% of ALL fights were over before round 6. And if they lasted the distance it was because both did nothing but throw a jab once in a while.
How realistic is that !? 99% of all fights ending in round 6 because of fatique ? How realistic is it that only ONE style is useful ?
I short, to be successfull, you could fight one style and one style only: jab and hug, and watching ur stamina like crazy. Now you can still box, but you would have to be good at BOXINg, that means evading and countering your oppontents "spam".

Not just jabbing and waiting for the other guy to tire.
In real boxing theres sluggers who can keep it up for 12 rounds, why not in OB ?
Also I feel that new players would think this kind of fighting to be extremely boring..
And to the ones that say stamina has no meaning anymore:Bull !. It just doesnt have the SAME meaning as YOU would like it to have, and that you taylor made YOUR style after.
As it if, If you're not careful, you can easily have a below half bar in round 7-8..which means that if you opponent has more, you would be in trouble the last 3 rounds, if he starts turning up the heat.
It's right that the first config made stamina totally meaningless, but after two or three tweaks it's not like that anymore.
I'm just doing what I feel is right..so give it a chance and try to adapt instead of just seeing things your own way.
Like i said, some like it and some not, it will always be like that, but some of the things some just said is flat out untrue or flat out biased.



Nice moderating Donny, thanks..It was needed.
Some like it some like it not..it will always be like that
Rocky Marciano wrote:It noobified the game to a point I am thinking of just quitting again. I am doing fine despite this change. I am just spamming now and doing it slightly better. That being said it really is not fun. Having to actually think what you are doing in the ring and having to actually set up your shots, instead of just filling the air with punches knowing some are bound to land, was WAY MORE FUN and CHALLENGING. Spamming for 12 rounds without having to aim or use any strategy is not fun nor challenging.

Spam spam + spam harder because you'll never


I recently had few matches where I counter spammed my opponents spam. Well somewhere in middle of it all I got hit with double noob hook. Little did I care since due to this newbie stamina I knew i could get up so i got up and continued. I ended up getting double noob hooked 3 separate times during the match. Each time I just got up and continue spamming knowing that I would win the round anyway with my spamming and that it is next to impossible to actually KO opponent now.

ALL THANKS TO NOOBIFIED STAMINA.

Ps. Yeah I will go and cry you a river Mikkel

It dont affect punching power so if you didnt get koed was just luck.
Barrack Obama wrote:
EDDIE54 wrote:sal is that u in the pic and ur girl?

Es una muchacha que me acabo de comer.

You name, avatar and signature together makes really not much sense anymore Sal
Rocky Marciano wrote:"If you are not advancing your position, not looking for a submission or to get some gnp on then they will stand you up. Same applies to being in the clinch against the cage, if you are not looking to advance your position IE: dropping for the single or trying to control the head for some clinch hitting (dirty boxing) then they will seperate you as you are basically stalling the fight process.

I agree totally with this as you will get some wrestlers which will just hold you down and not try to do anything, they have no submissions and are looking to win on points by controlling you, it's boring and takes away the whole point of the contest."

Perhaps the problem is that ground grappling is in principle very different to both stand up striking and stand up grappling. Both stand up striking and stand up grappling are very dynamic in nature. Opportunity to do a move presents itself in a split second and is there only a split second. This results in a fast explosive movements = exciting.

In ground grappling you can kill the speed (and you should) and gradually build up web of techniques and set up a trap. It really is like a chess. Most of the time there is lot going on although it looks like nothing is really happening. It just does not make good TV. Extremely effective = yes. Good TV = no.

That being said I hate to see MMA become like Olympic Judo: start standing up (and in mma striking goes here), throw/take down, get stood up really fast, repeat.


This all being said I have a problem with following:

""If you are not advancing your position, not looking for a submission or to get some gnp on then they will stand you up. Same applies to being in the clinch against the cage,"

I agree with the above quote. For sure if both of the fighters are just stalling and holding on be it on the ground or standing up in a clinch, there should be a restart. However if it is just one of the fighters doing stalling in order to get out of the position via restart - then it is totally fucked up. There should be yellow card system in the UFC too just to stop this.

Also what if you have two guys standing up just circling and doing nothing/advancing their striking "position"? It is as boring and as stupid as it is in grappling situation. Yet strikers can stall in order to get referee to help them out of grappling position/dimension back to their own strong area (which is striking) and the opposite does not exit for grapplers. There is no stalling standing up to get "stand down". There is no "stand down" to force fighters who do nothing standing up to try fighting on the ground.

Your saying alot of things and even quoting me..but it dont look as if you disagree with me so..
 
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